Debate Open Thread

No, I didn't watch it

Well, I watched a piece of it...I like Wolf Blitzer, but he seems to think he's doing a simultaneous interview on The Situation Room instead of moderating a debate.

Clinton bounced back, although I don't think she did that bad last time minus the immigration question. I don't think any of these guys can debate, which scares me when they're up against the bloodthristy bastards on the GOP side. I feel like Giuliani will tear these guys apart and the idiot population will buy his crap.

I'm worried.

Democratic Debate Part Deux

The Second Democratic Debate on CNN in New Hampshire didn't surprise me at all. Nevertheless, here are my thoughts on what I saw;

-Hillary Clinton drives me crazy. I'm scared of her blowing the election for the Democrats. I think she's too polarizing to be the Democratic standard bearer. Yet, everytime she gets up there, she sounds so presidential. She doesn't hurt herself at all. Occasionally, she even helps. She makes me think; "You know, if you weren't Hillary Clinton, you'd be running away with this."

Still, there is something that tickles me wrong about her, but I like her more as a candidate than I did when she announced.

-Obama did well tonight. Again, if he was the second term Governor of Illinois, he'd be running away with this, no matter what his race.

-Edward's Iraq rant annoyed me a bit. He voted aye on the war resolution and did not read the report, yeld scolded Clinton for doing the same thing and not apologzing. I'm glad he apologized, but it doesn't make it ok to scold those who didn't.

-Biden showed his expertise, especially on foreign policy. To be honest, I think he'd make a good VP now

-Richardson got off to a slow start and never recovered. I don't think he hurt himself, but he sure didn't help. I love Bill, but I'm tired of hearing "As Governor of New Mexico..." We know you're Governor of New Mexico, thanks.

Notes on the Democratic Debate

-Why can't Hillary Clinton just answer a question. I agree with her points, but just answer the question. Do you agree with Reid or not?
-"Not a game show, not a win or loose" Good explanation from Biden
-Kucinich is right about one thing; Congress has no obligations to give President Bush anything, yet I still disagree about funding.
-Richardson's plan is a hard sell, but it's specific, it's a plan and it's logical.
-"This administration treats diplomacy as if it were a gift to our opponents, a sign of weakness, not a sign of strength"- Dodd-i l gets a key soundbite.
-Mike Gravel will apparently play the role of the frustrated liberal in this race. Still, his advice to the Democratic Senators is one you would hear from a Senate alumnus. Still, Senator Gravel, they don't need you, they got Robert Byrd. He's a manual.
-Clinton keeps stating the obvious
-I like Senator Clinton, she's my Senator, I gladly voted for her, but I feel like she's too Party and not enough Person. I'm not so sure I want someone in the White House who's allegiance is more to the his/her party. Isn't that what we have now?
-Senator Biden CAN be a man of few words, and he has a wit.
-Gravel frightens me
-Clinton really scores some points with me in how she responsed to why people hate her. She is surprisingly strong.
-Obama is right, bring the focus off the divisive abortion issue and bring it on the issues everyone agrees on; reducing teenager pregnancy, adoption etc.
-Dennis Kucinich had a gun...really?!?!
-Carter, Reagan, Clinton and Bush 43 were ALL Governors, so, yes, Richardson should remind everyone that he, unlike everyone else, IS a Governor.
-Message to Obama, he asked about the Confederate flag, you already talked about black infant mortality.
-"Mistakes about Health care and believing a President" I like a person who can admit his/her mistakes, good job Hillary.
-People, what does one sentence mean to you?
-"We have no important enemies." Senator Gravel, I hate to bring this up, because I don't like to dwell on it, but, hello, 9/11, people aren't going to agree with you with 9/11 in mind.
-I totally agree with Edwards on education in the Middle East. Education is the biggest reason Islamic fundamentalism exists.


There were no fireworks, no battles, no tension, although Gravel attempted to create it, not even really a clear winner in tonight's debate.

There didn't need to be. The Democrats were all united on the major issue that will definite whether one of them will inhabit the White House from 2009 until at least 2013...Iraq.

With a vast majority, nearly a super majority of the country opposed to Iraq and disapproving of President Bush, everyone wins by taking shots are him and his leadership and the way the war is going.

The Democrats have not yet perfected the art of laying out plans, but they seem to be getting at it. The fact is now that the public is paying attention to them and dismissing Republican plans as failures, the Democrats now have the oportunity to actually convince people their plans work, and they need to start doing that soon.

Right now the 2008 race will be another tight one, but if they get their act together and put forth good and specific plans, they can easily seal the deal and win a Presidential landslide for the Democrats not seem since 1964.